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Pink and Satiny pt. II

(continued from here.)

So I guess this is about the time I should start listing all the times Dean flirts with other men in canon. Okay. Let’s do this. (It’s definitely worth nothing that Dean only flirts with guys when there are extenuating circumstances—when something’s wrong with him, or with his surroundings. He’s not the kind of guy who would walk into a bar, totally compos mentis, and hit on a guy. Not compos mentis? Not in a bar? Well.)

In Yellow Fever [4.06] Dean gets steaming drunk and flirts with the young, super cute, soft-spoken, feminine policeman. Who gets adorably flustered and flirts back (at least until Dean is physically hauled away by Sam). In The Curious Case of Dean Winchester [5.07] (alternate title for this essay, let me tell you), Sam and Dean are looking for a missing man; he has a USMC tattoo, and a birthmark. They find a guy with the same tattoo—stark naked, in bed with two girls, and 60 years younger—and Sam identifies him from the ID in his wallet. Despite the fact that they’ve caught him out, Dean still walks to the bed, lifts up the duvet, and gets a good look at the dude’s birthday suit. To look for his birthmark. With this expression on his face. I’ll just let that one sink in.

In Time After Time After Time [7.12], Dean is transported back to the 1940s and blatantly checks out a soldier in uniform. When he’s suicidal (or the angelic vessel equivalent of suicidal) in Point of No Return [5.18] he openly flirts with Castiel—“well, Cas, not for nothin’ but… the last person who looked at me like that, I got laid”—and then winks at him. (Want some ridiculously painful meta about how Dean behaves towards Castiel in that episode? Here, let me hook you up.)

In Changing Channels [5.08], the Trickster throws Dean and Sam into TV Land, and Dean comes face to face with the star of a TV show (Dr. Sexy, M.D.) he has a crush on. I think Dean’s lines speak for themselves on this one: “Oh boy. It’s him. It’s him, it’s Dr. Sexy.” He then gets all embarrassed and has to look down to hide his smile and it’s cute. He works out that Dr. Sexy is actually the Trickster because “I swore part of what makes Dr. Sexy sexy is the fact that he wears cowboy boots. Not tennis shoes.” Dean is a Dr. Sexy, M.D. fanboy. Sam is not impressed.

In You Can’t Handle The Truth [6.06], Sam tells Dean that a dentist “drilled a guy to death.” Dean’s reply? “You mean the non-sexy kind of drilling, right?” In The Mentalists [7.07] a gay waiter flirts with Dean and then informs him that he’s a “virile manifestation of the divine!” Which, considering Dean’s the form in which an archangel would have walked the earth, is sort of true. If the waiter’s psychic powers can sense that, maybe they can sense other things. Wink, wink. In Clap Your Hands If You Believe [6.09] Dean gets abducted by aliens—who are actually fairies, which will never stop being funny to me—and when (soulless) Sam asks him, “Did you service Oberon, king of the faeries?” Dean… looks a little shifty.

And then, of course, there’s Nick.

There aren’t really words enough for Sex and Violence [4.14] and the I-can’t-believe-this-is-happening emotional turmoil it wrought on us. The boys are hunting a siren—described by its victims as “perfect, and everything that they wanted”—and it winds up targeting Dean. And by “it”, I mean “he”: Agent Nick Munroe (Hoyt “I’m a grown ass man!” Fortenberry from True Blood). Sam and Dean think he’s a real FBI Agent, who’s going to get in the way of their case; Dean is instructed to drag him to the strip club to keep him out of Sam’s way. “Just focus on the naked girls, you’ll forget he’s even there!” Dean says he’s not doing this for Sam, he’s doing it for the girls. Right. First Nick complements the Impala. Next thing they’re in the strip club, doing shots, ignoring the girls—two grown men, ignoring strippers—and quizzing each other on music. Dean thinks Nick is pretty great. When Dean thinks Sam’s been infected by the siren, he calls Nick; Dean “we’re lone wolves” Winchester calling on an actual Fed for help.

At this point, Dean’s still Dean. Then he gets infected, and things get strange.

Before I detail—with mild bemusement, because I’m still not over the fact that this episode was a thing that happened—what goes down next, let me just take a second to point out how this episode is handled: excluding the siren/OMC and Dean/Sam FBI scenes, the majority of the episode is split up between Sam/Cara and Dean/Nick. Sam and Cara meet; Dean and Nick meet and become pals over the Impala; Sam and Cara initiate a business relationship; Dean and Nick bond through hanging out and doing shots in a club; Sam and Cara have sex; Dean gets infected. We don’t see the transition between Dean and Nick becoming friends over the car and getting crunk together talking about music, but we know it happens; we don’t see Sam and Cara going from the case business to sharing whiskey and having sex, but we know that happened too. You see what I’m getting at, here. Their relationships run parallel to each other; we jump down the timeline from relationship to relationship. We see something happen to Dean/Nick, we know it’s happening off-screen with Sam/Cara. So, either Dean and Nick had sex off-screen, or the writers want us to know that it was a definite possibility. (I’m leaning towards the latter, unless they had sex while Dean was infected--which: probably not, because y'know... it's all subtext.)

So. Dean and Nick drink from the same flask while on a stakeout, and Dean gets infected from Nick’s saliva. “You really should have wiped the lip of that thing before you drank from it, Dean.” You should really turn down the sex in your voice, Nick, it’s making me hot and bothered. In all seriousness, that is one hell of a seductive tone he’s employing there. He tells Dean that he should be his little brother, and Dean should kill Sam, so Dean and Nick can be brothers… forever! Shucks.

Sam comes back to the hotel room after his bout of storming around being angsty, and finds Nick sat on one of the beds (and, can I just say, I love that Sam went out and came back to Dean and Nick in the hotel room--I'm sure it doesn't mean anything, it's just too delicious to think that Dean was alone in their hotel room with a male siren. Why did Sam even go out? We just don't know! Cheek-clutching levels of wonderful). Sam gets grabbed from behind by Dean, and it only takes a split second for the penny to drop: “I gotta tell ya,” he says to Nick, “you’re one butt-ugly stripper.” Nick says he got “exactly what I wanted: I got Dean” and that he gave Dean what he needed, “and it wasn’t some bitch in a g-string; it was you.” The writers, bless them one and all, then probably thought they should throw in something to make everything a little less gay, and had Nick point out that Dean wanted a little brother he could trust, “and now he loves me. He’d do anything for me.” He follows that up with, “and I wanna fall in love again and again and again.”

A swing and a miss there, writers.

Nick then infects Sam (by spitting in his mouth), and has Dean and Sam fight it out for who gets to “be with me forever.” Sam and Dean say some horrific things to each other, throw down, and Dean almost manages to axe Sam to death—but then Bobby shows up and kills Nick and everything is hunky dory.

(It’s probably worth commenting on the fact that neither Sam nor Bobby seemed at all surprised that Dean’s siren was a man. Sam clocked on the second he walked in the room (in fairness, his brother had a knife at his throat, that probably jogged things along) and Bobby knew as soon as he showed up. Neither of them mention it to Dean, or say, “Y’know, how about that siren being a dude? Weird, huh?” Similarly, Sam doesn’t seem at all phased that Dean finds Dr. Sexy sexy. He’s more worried about the fact that Dean actually pays attention to the show. And in Time After Time After Time [7.12] Sam gets off a good one with, “Are you gonna look at more anime, or are you strictly into Dick now?” and then looks really pleased with his fantastic third degree burn. “Strictly”, though. Like Dean has previously been not so strictly into dick. Fuck you, I’ll interpret it how I want! You’re not the boss of me!)

Let’s look at Sex and Violence's mythology. This is the siren’s MO: it takes the form of a sexually desirable woman, sleeps with a dude, and then convinces him to kill whoever stands in the way of them being together forever. Then she does a bunk, and moves on to the next guy to infect with her feminine wiles and freaky saliva. She poses as a sexy stripper, and the first guy kills his wife. She poses as a sexy stripper, and the second guy kills his mum. She poses as a male FBI agent, and the third guy tries to kill his brother.

Why pose as someone similar to Sam to snag Dean, but not pose as a homely old woman to snag the mother-killing guy? Because sirens are sexually desirable to their victims. That’s their MO. She’s not going to change a centuries-old way of operating just to get Dean. Ergo: Dean finds men sexually attractive. It is literally that simple. The only reason she/it took a male form for Dean instead of being a stripper is because Dean is too busy focusing on the apocalypse and Sam possibly lying to him about Ruby to really be interested in picking up women. Stripper? Dean would probably flirt—of course he would, he’s Dean—but there’s no guarantee he’d take it further than that, considering. Cool dude who loves the Impala and is into all the same music as Dean wants to hang out? Dean is down for that, bro. Bish bash mothereffing bosh.

And this is where I’m possibly going to lose some of you. If Dean/Castiel isn’t your bag, then sorry dude, but I’d be remiss if I wrote an essay about Dean’s sexuality and didn’t mention Castiel.

At the beginning of season four, Castiel—an angel of the Lord—dragged Dean out of Hell, and Dean has the handprint seared onto his shoulder to prove it. When they first met, Cas showed up in a literal shower of sparks, didn’t flinch at the knife Dean thrust into his heart, knocked out Bobby, told Dean God had work for him, and bounced. Remember what Kripke said about Dean, that one time? “He’d be attracted to someone who walked in the door, slaughtered everybody and walked out, and then he’d say, ‘Who’s that?’” Castiel fits that description (so did Ruby, but we know how that turned out); and Cas can fit it, perfectly, because Kripke said “someone who”. Not “a chick who”. Just saying.

Over the course of the season Dean and Cas became friends. Castiel told Dean about his doubts, and made Dean promise not to tell another soul. Dean made Cas laugh—probably for the first time. Castiel was kept away from Dean by his superiors for his “weakness”—“He likes you.” Castiel was tempted to rebel, tried to warn Dean, and was dragged back to angel boot camp to be punished. And then, well—I think I’ll quote one of my old Dean/Cas feelings posts, here: “This being, who’s been alive for a millennia, who’s been an angel for a millennia, following God’s orders to the letter and watching his brother be cast out of Heaven for even questioning God’s word, suddenly decides to go against explicit orders. Not just explicit orders: planned-since-forever flavoured specific orders. Apocalypse-starting orders. World-ending, gospels-being-written-about-this-shit, it’s-your-destiny orders. He pulls a Lucifer. He breaks ranks, bucks the trend, fucks the system, and goes against thousands of years of ingrained instinct.

Because Dean asked him to.”

Yeah, I’m into dramatics, but the point still stands: in the however-many months Castiel knew Dean (a year, at best—a drop in the ocean for an angel) he did a complete 180, stuck the middle finger up at Zachariah and then sacrificed himself so Dean could get to Sam and stop the apocalypse. And, oh man, that episode—Lucifer Rising [4.22]—is probably one of my all-time favourites. Dean’s face when he realises Castiel is on his side? Priceless.

I promised myself this wouldn’t become a Dean/Cas ship manifesto, and I’d stop there, except the writers have given me such a friggin’ wealth of things to talk about (briefly, heh). There are the painfully blatant parallels between Sam/Ruby and Dean/Castiel: doe-eyed “sidekicks”; an angel vs. a demon; the Winchesters both end up puppets for them and who they’re working for; Sam and Dean are both having the wool pulled over their eyes; Castiel and Ruby both die in the season finale--and, can I just express my eternal disappointment that a) they went down the RuBy iS eViLzZz route and b) that Dean didn't drink Castiel's blood? Because honestly. All those parallels and then the little bitches lost their nerve. (Sam is banging Ruby, of course—remember the Sam/Cara Dean/Nick parallels? Yup.)

Then there are all the rounds of ocular intercourse. Misha Collins says that he and Jensen Ackles barely glance at each other when they’re filming, and they (presumably the producers/ editors/ whoever the hell is in charge of that stuff) “make it look like these long, romantic interludes.” Huh. But really, the staring is kind of ridiculous. I mean, when Dean gives himself “wholly to the service of God and his angels”, the stare that follows that is… well, if this wasn’t The CW—if it was HBO, say—they’d be making out. If you watch and just imagine that whenever the writers have them stare at each other they should actually be snogging, everything seems a lot less awkward and makes a lot more sense.

Then there’s Free To Be You and Me [5.03], by the glorious Jeremy Carver (welcome back, baby). Firstly, there’s the episode title: Free To Be You and Me was an album/songbook brought out by a bunch of feminist singers in the 1970s to encourage kids to challenge traditional gender roles. Possibly unimportant, but still mildly hilarious.

Dean’s lines, in this episode, are what really get me; when he sleeps with Anna in Heaven and Hell [4.10], she seduces him by saying it could be their last night on earth. Dean tells her she’s stealing his best line… which he then repeats to Castiel, the night before they plan on trapping Raphael in a ring of holy fire: “Well, last night on earth. What are your plans?” When he finds out Cas is a virgin, he says, “There are two things that I know for certain. One: Bert and Ernie are gay. Two: you are not gonna die a virgin. Not on my watch. Let’s go.” Wow, Dean. Talk about bringing up famous characters who’re read as gay by everyone with eyes, apropos of nothing! (This isn’t the first time he does it, this episode; when Cas shows up and asks for Dean’s help, he says, “So, what, I’m Thelma and you’re Louise, and we’re just gonna hold hands and sail off this cliff together?” Yeah, Dean. Complete with the kiss and the lesbian overtones. Also: this peach of a look.)

Dean’s not the only one who says some pretty romantic shit. “I was getting too close to the humans in my charge: you.” “I’m hunted, I rebelled, and I did it—all of it—for you.” “It sounds so easy when you say it like that. Where were you when I needed to hear it?” (“I was there. Where were you?” That is some straight-up romance novel dialogue right there.) “Dean and I do share a more profound bond.” “We’ve been through much together, you and I.” “I gave everything for you.” (That fight! That, one-sided, extremely homoerotic fight!) “I do everything you ask. I always come when you call.” “You’re just a man.” (Remember when Bobby’s supernatural-being ex-lover said that to him a couple of episodes later? Oh writers.)

And that’s nothing on some of the frankly baffling things other characters say re: Dean and Castiel. You’ve got Crowley making like he and Cas are having some sort of affair—“the stench of that Impala is all over your overcoat, angel”—and implying that Castiel is “a whore is a whore is a whore”, which I will honestly never actually understand. Maybe they just made him throw random words together and thought the English accent would help him get away with it. Kind of worked. There’s Uriel, who says Cas is weak because he likes Dean. And then there’s Balthazar, who comes out with one of my favourite lines—my heart actually skipped a beat when I heard it, okay, I’m that kind of fangirl—“I think you have me confused with the other angel. You know, the one in the dirty trenchcoat who’s in love with you.” It was probably supposed to be a sarcastic joke, but whatever, I still cried. And, whether you read it as a joke or not, Dean’s reaction is not a we’re all pals here making jokes eh eh kind of reaction. I don’t even know what kind of reaction it is. He sort of looks like had a serious truth bomb dropped on him.

What about Repo Man [7.15]? Talk about the best episode of the season, s’all I’m saying. So Dean is—actually, you know what? I’m just going to let this gifset (and the hilarious/heartbreaking tags) do all the talking. It’ll be quicker than me. NB: just came up with a great Jeffrey/demon line about dudes being inside each other, but I’ll spare you.

One last thing: Castiel "died" (and so did my heart) and Dean pulled his trenchcoat out of a lake and held it like it was the most important thing he'd ever touched. Then he carried around the dirty, ratty old thing for upwards of six months, moving it from stolen car to stolen car. And then he gave it back.

I’m done with the Dean/Castiel now. It was probably all unnecessary anyway; if you ship it, you already know, and if you don’t, you probably skim read it and shook your head disapprovingly. Either way, let me just close the Dean/Cas section with this line: “Next to Sam, you and Bobby are the closest things I have to family. You are like a brother to me.” It breaks my heart that The Man Who Would Be King [6.20] had to happen in order for Dean to finally man up and tell Castiel how much he means to him, but still; as far as Dean Winchester is concerned, saying someone is like a brother to him is the highest possible praise. Because brotherly love is the most powerful love that Dean can comprehend. So yeah. Feelings, I guess.

Caveat: here there be crack. Not "Dean is bisexual and here is some mpreg" crack, but current English student, old film student, "Lottie, you read way too much into everything in the whole world" crack. Which, personally, I don't think is cracky at all. But, apparently, everyone else does, including but not limited to most of the people in my old English Lit class, my parents, and everyone I try to discuss films with. Fair warning.

And, alright, this first point may be totally crackalicious, but it struck me while I was rewatching the episode recently and it's been niggling at me ever since. At the start of The Magnificent Seven [3.01], Sam is sitting in the Impala, researching Doctor Faustus and crossroads demons yadda yadda yadda. We see Dean shoot him the thumbs-up through the motel window, pull the curtains, and take a girl's shirt off, all nicely silhouetted and whatnot. Bobby calls Sam, says they need to hit the road, and Sam edges into the motel room to tell Dean they need to make like a tree; unfortunately for Sam, Dean and the girl are apparently mid-coitus and Sam bleats out a, "oh God!" and flees back to the car. Par for the course with Dean as your brother, I'm sure.

In the next scene they're flying down an back road in the Impala, and Sam asks for Dean's knife--because he wants to gouge his eyes out. Am dram, much? Dean points out that it's a beautiful, natural act, and Sam counters that it's a part of Dean he never wanted to see. (Which, really, he's been sharing motel rooms with Dean since he was a baby--I'm sure that wasn't the first time he's walked in on Dean banging a chick or, y'know, taking care of business.) Dean laughs and says, "I appreciate you giving me a little quality time with the Doublemint Twins." (Google informs me that the Doublemint Twins are various sets of twins that advertised for Wrigley's chewing gum. Whatever.)

And here's where the little credibility I have goes soaring out the window: I think one of the twins was a dude.

Okay, I see you rolling your eyes, but honestly; by the time Dean says the twins line, there's no comedy value whatsoever. The moment's passed. My face didn't even change, the first time I watched it. I was just a bit surprised that they went to all the trouble of giving us the shot with Dean taking the girl's shirt off in silhouette in the window, and they didn't even ramp up the 'oh Dean, you cad!' laughs by having him turn around and take the second girl's shirt off, too. There's nothing at all in the scene through the window or when Sam sticks his big mush in the room to indicate there's more than one woman in there. (I even turned the hard-of-hearing subs on; it says WOMAN MOANING. Not "women". Shut up, okay.)

Then there's the dialogue in the car. The whole "it's a natural act, Sam" sounds a little bit weird and defensive, if you ask me. And Sam's reaction is kind of over-the-top. And then when Sam says it was "no problem" giving Dean happy time with the twins, Dean is genuinely surprised. Sure, Sam can act like a bit of a killjoy, but I doubt he actually ever says anything about Dean bedding girls. Sam beds girls, too. Dean even says, "Really? I was expecting a weary sigh or an eye roll, something." Also, "it's a part of you I never wanted to see, Dean." Man.

Whatever, you guys. I just don't think the writers are ones to drop the ball like that in regards to comic timing. The twins line/reveal could have been hilarious, but it was just slipped in afterwards for no apparent reason. It's all about the motherloving subtext. Unless, of course, everyone in America knows Doublemint Twins is slang for a hot girl and doesn't actually mean that there's two of them. In which case, disregard everything I said, I am a foreigner and I do not understand your ways.

(Okay I just checked Urban Dictionary out of interest, and I am literally pissing myself laughing. There are three definitions for "doublemint": 1. a small dude who thinks he's a badman, 2. cocaine and 3. "two wicked hot guy twins, preferably identical. tiernan and sean are some hot doublemint dudes." lmaooooo.)

This is where the film student in me comes out--and usually the point when everyone else starts telling me to shut up, I'm ruining the movie--but have you ever noticed Dean's clothes? (First of all, have a look at this. Look at the signs around the window: WING on one side, POSITIVE NO SMOKE on the other. That's the first time Cas tries to talk to Dean in Lazarus Rising [4.01]. You can't look at that and tell me they don't pay attention to mise-en-scène on Supernatural. If you want another example, check out the decor in Emanuel and Daphne's house in The Born-Again Identity [7.17]. Now have a look-see at future!Cas's cabin in The End [5.04]. Mise-en-scène is important, we're hurtling towards The End!verse, and you'll never convince me otherwise. Rant over.)

So, clothes. When Sam and Dean aren't undercover, or when there's not something else going down, or when Dean's not stripped off and working on the Impala, Dean usually wears a t-shirt and an open shirt over the top. Sam usually just wears a shirt (t-shirts, in the earlier seasons). Sam wears one layer, Dean wears two--or two layers and three, when they've got jackets on. (One of my friends just wrote a project for her special effects film course about how Michael Corleone's suits can be directly linked to his progression in The Godfather Part I and how his attire reflects his character arc, okay? I'm not the only person who pays unnatural attention to stuff like this. In fact, here's an article about the importance of clothes on film, from a website dedicated to examining costume and identity in movies. Important, exciting shit.)

My argument: Dean's clothes represent his sexuality. (If we're assuming Sam is a comfortable, hetero dude, that is--he's monosexual: he wears one shirt.) In layman's terms: two shirts = bisexuality. The two layers represent the two different facets of his sexuality; the heterosexual and the homosexual. Here, I collected a bunch of caps of Dean wearing two shirts and Sam wearing one for you. (I'm not saying this theory works for everything on television. It's just something to think about.)

You know who else rocks the two-shirted look? Ed, from The Ghostfacers [3.13]. Ed, whose friend has a crush on him. Ed, who helps that friend's death echo move on by telling him he loved him. And crying. (Who would have thought that when Harry told him to "go be gay for that poor, dead intern" it would end in collective weeping, huh? That wasn't just me, right?) It's a gorgeous scene, and it's super lovely, and it's really, really gay. ("Corbett, look. Hey, it's just Ed, buddy. It's just me. Hey, hey, Corbett, listen to me. Listen to me. I--we... Okay. You meant... Corbett, you meant a lot to the team. You meant... You meant a lot to me. You know, never back down... Never say a bad word, okay? I remember that, Corbett. I--I remember that. I remember because I love you, Corbett. I really, truly love you. Do you remember that? Do you?" Weeeep.) And, interestingly enough, when Sam, Dean and the Ghostfacers are all together at the end of the episode, Dean and Ed are the only ones wearing two shirts.

If the shirt theory tickles your fancy--and ridiculous analysing of clothes in general--then you should most definitely check out perpetuallycaffeinated's fantastic musings on Dean's clothing in Frontierland [6.18], complete with sassy screencaps and wonderful meta. I also got kind of overexcited about the fact that Stiles Stilinski from Teen Wolf (a sort-of confirmed bisexual!) rocks the two shirted look--you can read the subsequent fallout here.

Not enough over-analysis for you? How about the sword scene from Like A Virgin [6.12]? Dean wrestling with a phallic symbol was always going to be extremely entertaining to me, but then I came across a post by caffeineandcleavage (another Dean-is-bisexual crusader) which laid out how this scene is an allegory for sexuality. And, let me tell you, it cannot be unseen. The facial expressions alone.

(For those of you who aren't down with Arthurian legends, after king Uther Pendragon died, Merlin (wizard bigwig) bunged a sword in a stone and wrote "Whoso pulleth out this sword of this stone is the rightwise born king of all England" on it. Arthur Pendragon (though no one knew he was Arthur Pendragon) pulled it out. We can safely assume that the original sword in the stone legend has absolutely no bearing on this episode whatsoever, except the fact that Dean may or may not have delusions of grandeur. Also, I learnt got most of my Arthurian knowledge from Disney and BBC's Merlin, so I'm possibly wrong.)

In a nutshell: the sword is a phallic symbol, the stone is a yonic symbol (that means vagina!!!!), and the two are forged together--the masculine and the feminine, stuck. Dean shows up and has us all in hysterics trying to yank the sword out--trying to separate the masculine and the feminine--but he can't. When he finally manages to separate them--by destroying the yonic symbol--he only comes away with half of the phallic symbol. The other half is still embedded in the stone.

If Dean's masculinity is the sword, his femininity is the rock; this scene shows that they can't be separated. He tries to pull them apart, and leaves half of his masculinity snug within his femininity. Dean is split between the two. Hence why this scene is referred to as the scene in which Dean is symbolically bisexual.

Those of you who know what I look like can probably imagine how smug I look right now.

So. The end of my plan for this "essay" says: "conclusion: apology." Conclusion: I read too much into things, the Supernatural writers are pretty awesome, and Dean Winchester is bisexual. Apology: I'm sorry.

(All the kudos in the world to thefucking-trenchcoat, whose post on Dean's sexuality started this whole ridiculous mess, passingknightly for the points about the subversion of Dean's masculinity, caffeineandcleavage, whose 'Dean is bisexual' tag is an absolute goldmine, oneay for wading through meta and sending me all her Dean/Sam feelings, and dirtyovercoats for coming to the same 3.01 conclusion as I did.)


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Apr. 19th, 2012 07:27 pm (UTC)
Wow...I mean- w-fucking-o-damned-w. It feels like I've been watching SPN with closed eyes all the time and you've just ripped them open. Sure, I sorta felt/knew that Dean (probably) is bisexual but I've never seen it with such clarity. Absolutely NOONE can deny Dean (quite possibly) being bisexual after reading this. A truly magnificent essay!
The 'Dean being more gentle in bed than Sam' is also a very interesting point I haven't though of at all till now tbh. It seems like such a contradiction, since Sam is usually seen as the more 'sweet' and 'romantic' of the two, but with what you wrote it's definitely legit -and gonna keep me thinking for a good while.
The dynamics of the two are such an endless source of possible interpretations c:
What a pity that SPN isn't on HBO tho xDD

(And just in case: Sorry for possible double post, google kept screwing with the logins >> )
Jun. 4th, 2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure how to reply to comments on here (uneducated in lj etiquette) but thank you very much! "w-fucking-o-damned-w" may be the greatest compliment I have ever received on a piece of writing!
Apr. 20th, 2012 06:41 pm (UTC)
(have an icon with Dean and a phallic object!)

Besides that, I don't have anything clever to add, really, I'm just commenting to let you know that this analysis is awesome, and that I loved the last part as well. I'm doing English and Films Studies, so over-reading into stuff is really my thing.
(I want to marry the mise-en-scène chapter on my coursebook and then have an affair with the Supernatural props. On a side note, I agree with you on the fact that It always ends here and The End is probably the best episode ever, and the real end of Supernatural.)

Oh, and one thing that I found amusing:
If we're assuming Sam is a comfortable, hetero dude, that is--or, if you're a wincest shipper, a comfortable, gay dude.
Everyone sees Sam as straight, execept if wincest is involved (I'm not talking about fanfictions, I mean, I do love crackpairings and stuff, but it's the analytical posts like this I'm thinking about). I don't know, it's just something I noticed. While Dean is ambiguously bonding with dudes all the time (on this point, I'd really like to know what do you think about the Trikster-Gabriel, he's one you never mentioned here, unless I missed something - and yes, I read the fist part in the other post as well), Sam is the one who has more serious (Sarah Blake, Amy Pond, Madison) relationship (not necessarily in the romantic sense, see when he first meets Meg) with girls.
Jun. 4th, 2012 11:03 pm (UTC)
English and film studies!!!! I'm doing an English Lit degree with a couple of film modules thrown in for good measure, so I feel you there.

I never really thought Dean should/would bond w/ Gabriel because first he sees him as something they have to hunt and then an angel, and Dean doesn't seem to trust angels on principle (except Cas, and that was a long time coming).
Apr. 21st, 2012 12:06 pm (UTC)
This essay is pure gold. I love any person who can word vomit more than I can on the sexuality of a Mr. Dean Winchester. You are beautiful, this essay is beautiful. I love everything about it. This might be because I haven't slept in a while, but I still love it.
Jun. 4th, 2012 11:03 pm (UTC)
Thhaaannkkkk yyoooouuuuuuuu!
Apr. 22nd, 2012 01:10 am (UTC)
*still applauding*
Yeah... awesome *what are words*

I would like Misha and Jensen to read this. Someone should send this to the CW.


Okay, actually I think that he is straight, and that he just feels more comfortable with guys because of a lot of reasons (the loss of his mother, then growing up becoming more and more objectified by girls/women in my opinion, and the fact that Cassie must have hurt him really deeply etc), while it's more easy to talk and bond with guys, especially if they don't know that much about him (and guys don't try to, contrary to women usually).

Also, about Dr Sexy and co, are for me more idols for him than anything else. Like he admired them, and want to be like them.
As for his clothes and manners etc, they're obviously copied from his father because of the same reason, want to be like him, because John is strong, while himself - what he thinks - is weak and makes mistakes. If he becomes more like him, like batman and Clint Eastwood, he'll be able to do he's job even if he don't like to kill deep down, and be able to protect his brother (and I believe he's totally traumatized about it because of that one time).

So yeah he is for me that cute little fanboy who likes girls, but they just want to BANG him usually if they don't just ignore him because they think he's dumb, so he likes to be around guys because they TALK to him, it's easier and more comfortable, and I don't think that he'll ever want to actually touch an other guy.

But I like your reasoning too XD
Especially because Castiel is different, that not only he is not actually a guy, he could have been a woman, and because not only he likes to hear what he has to say, but tells him that he's worth way more than the 6 bucks in his account too, and because they have that very deep and intense friendship.
Plus he is Allen Ginsberg/Carlo Marx, so he's definitely special huhuhu.
Jun. 4th, 2012 11:05 pm (UTC)
Re: *still applauding*
Oh man, if someone sent this to the CW I would die of happiness and then I'd just straight-up die.

My heart is swelling x100000000 at the comparison of Cas/Carlo Marx omg!!!!!!
Apr. 22nd, 2012 06:06 pm (UTC)
Yes. Yes. Yes. All of this. YES!

I shall let gifs speak for me:



Jun. 4th, 2012 11:05 pm (UTC)
omg <3
Jun. 1st, 2012 10:09 pm (UTC)
This was absolutely brilliant and I have to agree 1000% I am a shameless Dean/Cas shipper as well. Honestly I have nothing to add, you've said it all.

(And side-note: in Free To Be You and Me they're getting ready to summon Raphael not Uriel)

Edit: By the way season 7 and most of season 6 just broke my friggin heart. Especially wearing my Dean/Cas ship-goggles. And I'm so glad I'm not the only that sees this is just progressing towards The End!verse

Edited at 2012-06-01 10:23 pm (UTC)
Jun. 4th, 2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
oh bro I reread this recently and I was like "welp that's wrong... wrong... wrong... wrong..." I speed-wrote it and managed to include a whole bejesus of errors. sigh.

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Aug. 6th, 2012 03:53 am (UTC)
ahaha so I just started watching SPN (about half way through s6 currently) and the whole Dean is bisexual thing hit me like a freight train. I decided I had to find me some delicious meta essays and wow does this one deliver!

this is a beautiful summation of all the evidence toward his bisexuality--even without all the Cas stuff. (I think I ship it, but I still have to work the whole thing out.)

the only thing I disagree with is your evidence from 3x01 but that's just because I assumed "doublemint twins" referred to the woman's boobs? I know "the twins" is really common slang for a woman's chest anywho.
Oct. 25th, 2012 09:48 pm (UTC)
Sssshhhh I am European keep your American slang away from my head canon!!!!!! Blast!!!

Thanks a lot, dude! Yeah, Dean/Castiel becomes more and more complicated as a ship as the seasons progress. Every interaction they have now has to be dissected from about eight different view points before it can be understood and enjoyed. Loooong.

Nice icon, by the way! And thanks again!
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Oct. 30th, 2012 02:49 am (UTC)
Absolutely wonderful!
This was absolutely the most entertaining and interesting things I've read ever of supernatural. Of in general really. The only other post that comes to mind is a post on the internalized racism of Loki in "thor" But aside from that... I just loved reading this I'm nearly an hour late for practice thank you very much but I had to finish this. this is freaking amazing!!

One thing I would like to ask of you

"What about Repo Man [7.15]? Talk about the best episode of the season, s’all I’m saying. So Dean is—actually, you know what? I’m just going to let this gifset (and the hilarious/heartbreaking tags) do all the talking. It’ll be quicker than me. NB: just came up with a great Jeffrey/demon line about dudes being inside each other, but I’ll spare you."

I tried clicking on that gifset and I think either the blog is deleted or has changed names. I would love to see the gifset + meta, if you can find it anywhere.

Thank you so much on this enlightening essay!
Oct. 31st, 2012 02:17 am (UTC)
Re: Absolutely wonderful!
also, after reading this post... when watching supernatural episode (currently i'm back on season 3 because I find myself not really remembering much from previous episodes) and I listen to these little things that dean says... maybe now i'm just over thinking, but thanks for opening my eyes to these things. it makes the show so much more enjoyable to watch (it was already awesome, but... awesome things can get more so....)

here's just one of many things i just find myself observing
from S3x14

"that was bobby. some banker dude blew his head off in ohio, and he thinks there's a spirit involved"
"so you two were talking a case?"
"no we were actually talking about our feelings, and our favorite boy bands"

i know it was just dean being sarcastic, but his little side stuff. makes me laugh. XD
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Nov. 1st, 2012 01:23 pm (UTC)
I totally accept *all* of this as canon *nodsnods*
What an awesome read :D Thank you <3
Nov. 28th, 2012 10:26 pm (UTC)
thank you!!!
Nov. 25th, 2012 10:24 am (UTC)
Loved the essay, and am overjoyed at the direction the show seems to be taking re: Dean's bisexuality. I never thought they would actually do it, but the crotch-covering move when Cas came out of the bathroom? To actually show that Dean is sexually attracted to a guy, and that blatantly, is more than I ever hoped for. Plus the whole talking about feelings/looking Cas over head-to-toe multiple times.
Ah, but anyways, thank you for taking the time to pick out and analyze all these moments. I especially liked that you included relevant screencaps; it's hard to keep all those episodes fresh in your mind.
Nov. 28th, 2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
thank you, i'm so glad you liked it!!!

dean's reaction to that actually had me on the floor, screaming into a bean bag!!! (not an exaggeration, my flatmate took pictures.) there is honestly no way you can watch that scene and interpret it as anything else!!! it's just!!! romance!!!! and there's the fact that he barely took his hands off cas all episode. crazy with the touching. aND THE INITIATING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FEELINGS????? OMGGGGG

did you see the comments about what misha said at the meet and greet at torcon??? (so excited to talk to a dean/cas shipper, i'm sad) http://valjeans.tumblr.com/post/34592228297 !!!! don't mind me just weeping and passing out no big deal

i'm glad you liked the essay anyway :)
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Dec. 8th, 2012 03:13 pm (UTC)
Okay, so I always used to think Dean's bisexuality was a fangirl's fantasy, but the recent episodes with Cas just definitely turned that around. Nail in coffin. And, now, your essay...

Wow. Wow. I feel like such an innocent schoolgirl. You noticed so many things I never did! Firstly, Dean's drug use. I completely missed that. If I ever saw it, I totally forgot about it. And having sex with men for money! OMG. Same deal. You are so brilliant. When you started to write about that, I remembered the suspicions I had, especially when Dean said he "earned" the money. I was, like, whoa, they can't mean what I think they mean. I think I remember the Jensen quote about Dean being promiscuous too. AHHHH!

The entire thing about the siren is so dead on. When I saw that episode, I was convinced they wanted us to think Dean had the hots for men. They tried to cover it up by saying he needed a "little brother" but that only made me think Dean had the hots for Sam because sirens were sexually desirable to their victims in every other case.

Your collection of Destiel eye-sex is, wow, so telling. I always notice the blatant affection he has in his eyes when he looks at Cas, but I put that on my shipper goggles. I think that's what I do in general because I assume people who make shows want us to think everyone is hetereo unless there's a neon sign flashing about that reads "GAY"!!! I'm sort of a cynic in that I believe it will be a long time coming before we get a cool, manly, well-developed gay couple on TV. That is cannon.

All your observances about Cas are the same for me too. An ancient being changes his entire way of being to follow Dean around? HOW IS THAT NOT GAY?!?! It's fanatical love. Finally, let me just say.... Season 8. Nuff said.
Jan. 18th, 2013 12:45 am (UTC)
aaahhhhh thanks!!! yeah the hints about dean's drug use are pretty subtle, but they're there - my favourite is in 3.10 when the dream-walker dude says "it was like a bad acid trip, you know?" and dean's like "yeah, totally... wait, no" blessssss.

and uuugghhhh dean/cas. season eight really is just. overwhelming, in that regard. the fact that they're actually talking and communicating and not just yelling and sitting on their feelings literally sends me into a dead faint every week. babies.

so glad you liked ittttt!!!
Dec. 13th, 2012 10:36 pm (UTC)
This is absolutely amazing! I had my suspicions for awhile about Dean myself, but I never would have been able to put it as eloquently as you :) <3
Jan. 18th, 2013 12:45 am (UTC)
ugh THANKS!!
Dec. 20th, 2012 05:14 am (UTC)
hi, found you through a link in tv tropes. wow, this is really exquisite meta. just wanted to say thanks (and "awesome").
Jan. 18th, 2013 12:46 am (UTC)
every time someone says they found this essay on tvtropes my heart literally skips a beat. so glad you enjoyed reading it!!!!
Dec. 27th, 2012 11:46 pm (UTC)
Also it is funny that you have written this in my birthday, BES PRESENT EVER! ♥
Jan. 18th, 2013 12:46 am (UTC)
Dec. 28th, 2012 05:01 am (UTC)
I love this, and you are awesome. I don't even know how you managed to pull together all the references, but yes. Very good essay and nothing missing and THANK YOU :D
Jan. 18th, 2013 12:47 am (UTC)
noooo thank you!!!!! it took a while to get all the references together, but in my defence it was summer and i was bored out of my tree and it seemed like a great idea at the time. thanks again!
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